MSNBC voting on Amber Joy Milbrodt’s $162 bill from Parkland Hospital, which she says she won’t pay, has overwhelming support from the voters who say since she didn’t see a doctor she should not have to pay her bill. (I hope the link works — if not, go to the story and vote to see results.) This just proves people have no concept of the way health care functions: it is not simply the cost of seeing the physician, there are ancillary expenses. �
Yo! Candy girl,
You conveniently forgot to mention that other hospitals in town, inc. Baylor, do not charge a triage fee unless seen by a physician. Paying less than 200 bucks for your grown daughter’s coverage on your plan has nothing to do with what a single person can get on their own. Using this case and the Herrera case as your reason to vote NO for the much-needed facility is simply another reflection of your insular view of what goes on the world of us peeps who take home less than a half-million dollars a year and who live outside the confines of people married to physicans in Preston Hollow. But gosh, you have always excelled at such inane reasoning. Oh my gosh, the dreaded “labeling due to where a person lives and how much they make and how much they really know” accusation. Yup, damn straight, sister.
Polly Anna, that $177 is what she pays for her OWN coverage. Young people can not be on their parent’s plan after age 25 in Texas, which is ridiculous. (Insurance is one of our biggest problems!) Young people are the cheapest to insure because they are healthy! The reason Baylor and Presby don’t charge is because they collect from private insurers on patients who have coverage — recall the stories about $75 dollar Advil tablets? That’s how they cover indigent care. I am not insular — in fact, maybe we ought to raid the fat pockets of some former Wall Street CEO’s to help fund Parkland. I fear it will fall back on all of us, you and me. Here is a young person in the medical field who should have known better. She took advantage of the system and refuses to acknowledge the costs associated with seeing a physician. I want to believe in the bond program, convince me why I’m wrong!
Last week the head of Parkland was a guest on “Think” on KERA. I was only able to listen to a few minutes of it live, but I downloaded the podcast to listen to at some point this week. It might provide some insight into helping you make a decision.
It’s still available online if you hurry.
http://www.kera.org/audio/think.php
Parkland officials keep stating that the costs of out-of-county patients are covered by private insurance or by the government.
What is not discussed is the hidden cost of overutilization, when a Dallas county resident has to wait 19+ hours to see a doctor, while out of county (trauma) cases are seen earlier. So making the existing Parkland larger might cut the wait down by half? Still too long to see a doctor.
It is time for this region to look at building a second Parkland somewhere else, in addition to the one that is existing, and the total costs shared by all the residents of the area.
Excellent point, one I have heard many physicians make as well. Do you think a second facility in, say, Collin County?
Collin County residents regularly run down Dallas, Fair Park, City Council, DISD – then they want us to pay for their indigent health care. That and 70% of the babies born at Parkland to people also here illegally is reason enough to vote NO. When those items are resolved and we can afford to pay our teachers, I will vote YES.
Candy,
This is a tough issue for me to vote on. Funny to read this…the wife an I just had a long discussion about Parkland.
I have had to use Parkland when wifey and I were waiting for our new plan to kick in. Five hours on a Sunday. They sent a bill for about $175 (!) and we paid it. Now we have our new coverage..we self-insure and it costs $350/mth up from $280 last month.
It’s a tough one. Collin County needs to kick in, but do we penalize people that aren’t as blessed as us to buy our own coverage.
I think we need to require everyone to carry health insurance, cover it for those below a certain income level. I think we need to get tough on the insurance companies and regulate them more. It does not make sense that by now, umpteen years after we first started talking about health care reform, the insurers have not figured out an economical way to pool the self-insured into affordable coverage.
its time to ditch the Health insurance companies altogether. And put in national health care. Yes, it would be a pain in the butt, but EVERYONE would save money, and get equal health coverage. And yes, it would cost a s-load, which the government currently does not have.
Candy,
How did you get into this topic?
Let’s get back to real estate “dirt” instead of social issue.
I say, government provide equal insurance to everyone. Period!Rich or Poor. (Rich people can choose their own). At least every one is covered. Then, everyone will go back to the “dirt” issue.
TonySo@magnum2000.com
Tony, this is dirt: what it will cost us to kep our dirt. The Parkland issue will cost us Dallas county residents $30 more in property taxes per each $100K of value on our home. So for a million dollar home, that’s $300. Not much, I agree, but the problem with government is that they’ll need more money and go back and soon that $300 will be $600. It never ends once you open that door! But for you, back to dirt!
You get what you pay for. Period.
She doesn’t have health insurance? She waits. You don’t want pay for new Parkland, then you wait. Parkland plays the hand it was dealt with.
What made me laugh and cringe at the same time was the woman’s statement that she wouldn’t go to Parkland if she were dying. That’s the one time you should get yourself down there. They know what they’re doing. That’s why they don’t waste their time on walkable fractures that aren’t an emergency.
All ERs have very long wait times at peak periods. And going to any ER at 10 p.m. isn’t a good idea either. You’re guaranteed that you’ll be there 1/2 the night.
Parkland isn’t a hospital for everyone. It’s a safety net for the poor and a place to go if you are seriously injured. If you don’t fit the above, avoid it. But be grateful it’s there. It may save your life one day.
CG: Parkland is more than a hospital for the poor (you have something against the poor, BTW?!). It’s also the prime teaching hospital in the area — and badly needed there.
Candy: Last month, Annette and Harold Simmons pledged $50 million to Parkland, contingent on the hospital’s ability to raise an additional $100 million for the new campus. Jan and Trevor Rees-Jones pledged $25 million that is contingent on the passage of the Dallas County bond issue on Nov. 4. Perhaps you should put in a call to them and ask their thoughts??
Now, about green paint… it’s true, it’s great.
I have nothing against Parkland. My spouse trained there. You don’t like poor? How about uninsured? I think Parkland is a great place, but I’d rather be taken care of by a board-certified MD than a 2nd year resident. I can choose that because I have insurance, which I pay for and costs a bloody fortune.
P.S. Bill I 100% support the bond issue and Ron Anderson.