$1371.27. The good news is it is down from last month — but put earmuffs on my husband lest he unplug our A/C. How can this be? And what, pray tell, are the bills at homes larger than our heifer?
16 Comments to “Just Got Electric Bill, Having Heart Attack”
Drew@ August 1st, 2008 at 12:46 pm
What’s your square footage and if it’s down from last month, what was last month’s? A heart attack in a small white envelope?
Just wait until next month’s arrives with this string of 100+ days on it.
Nate@ August 1st, 2008 at 2:36 pm
What kind of windows do you have in the house? I’ve replaced all of my windows with Simontons and have already seen my electricity bills drop by 10-15% compared to the same months last year…and it has been hotter this summer already. I’d say it was money well-spent.
Anyone looking for a good and very trustworthy window guy, have Candy send me your email address.
LM@ August 1st, 2008 at 2:54 pm
That’s an extraordinary high amount! Do you live in a freezer?
Our bill was about $400, and we have an old (1930)leaky 3200 sq foot two-story house. Since it would probably cost us about $20,000 to put in new windows, I’ll take a few hundred extra each month on the bill. We keep the downstairs at 75-76, but sleep upstairs at 72-73 degrees.
LM@ August 1st, 2008 at 2:57 pm
One way that we cut down on costs, is that I unplug or turn off everything I can when not in use like chargers, printers, lights, TV–if the sun’s up, the lights are off. I’ve also replaced some lightbulbs with the flourescent ones.
Peterk@ August 1st, 2008 at 4:54 pm
have you considered the average billing plan. helps spread it out over the year. consider closing the door to rooms you don’t use during the day this keeps the cool air in those rooms
have your thermostat checked and remember no home cooling system is designed to lower the temperature more than 20 degrees. So if is it 105 outside the best inside you can do is 85
use ceiling fans
Baseball Mike@ August 1st, 2008 at 6:56 pm
Well,
I’ve talked to a lot of people ’round here — and Candy’s experience seems to be fairly typical. The reason this sort of thing happens, is that the building codes around here and the construction techniques everyone use have no regard to thermal/energy efficiency. Home wrap has been standard issue in homes elsewhere for years — here, its not even typical on luxury homes. Checked the SEER rating on your HVAC unit lately? What about radiant barriers in the roof? Plenty of things can be done at construction that make would ensure energy bills closer to $100 / month in August for about 3k sf — but all anyone ’round here seems to care about is the extremely low price they paid in the first place. Y’all get what you pay for…
C.R.@ August 1st, 2008 at 7:29 pm
Texans pay an average of 12.9 cents per kilowatt hour…one of the higher “average energy costs” in the nation (behind Hawaii, Alaska, and California). TXU sucks as a provider, and they make mistakes such as labeling “residential” properties as “commercial;” low and behold, commercial rates are higher than residential rates…It happened to a friend of mine who is renting a townhouse, and TXU has yet to re-classify the property (the only time a “townhouse” is a “commercial property” is when someone like Heidi Fleiss is your tenant…).
Newsweek just had an article about the cost of energy in all 50 states. We’re on the higher end of the energy cost continuum. So, de-regulation worked well…for companies like TXU. Oh, and if you have a smaller provider, there is a chance that if they go out of business / are bought out by a bigger company, that your rates will jump up too (that’s happening in the suburbs near Houston).
I’d suggest looking into solar panels–they’re actually becoming cost-effective (see the article in newsweek). My electrician was encouraging me to look into them (he hates TXU too, and is a big advocate of generating your own power).
Other energy savers: switch out regular incandescent lights for LED’s (which are $60-80 a pop…so enjoy the sticker shock on that), or Compact Florescents (they make dimable ones now, but they’re still kind of primitive).
Pretty much anything you have that has a clock, or little red light on it is sucking up energy even when it’s turned “off.” If you leave chargers in sockets when you aren’t charging anything, that’s also sucking on some energy.
Big(er) houses do come with big(er) bills…they’re a whipping, pretty much all the way around: taxes, insurance, utilities, maintenance.
I’ve heard of energy bills running $1900-$2,000 + in the summer months for say between a 7,000 and 7,500 square foot house.
LM@ August 2nd, 2008 at 10:18 am
That bit about the AC lowering temps only 20 degrees is an old wives’ tale. It can be 110 outside, but any decent central AC can keep it at 68 with no problems except for the bill. Heck, it’s FREEZING in the grocery stores. Whole Foods said that they keep it really cold because of the lack of preservatives in their food. (This was posted on the Preston/Forest bulletin board in their questions/comments section some months back.)
The major culprit of high utility costs in newer homes is the ceiling height. Ten-foot ceilings (and higher) will cost you serious dollars to heat and cool. Add some sunlights, floor to ceiling windows, and a third AC unit, and you’ve got a $1,000 electric bill.
I would love to have a solar panel. Any resources to point us to?
Say No To Big Houses!@ August 2nd, 2008 at 2:11 pm
TO C.R.:
I looked at solar panels to put on my new hope-to-be 3500 sq ft LEED home and found that it would take roughly 40 years to pay back the minimum of $30K cost. Because my house will be super energy efficient anyway, I think the solar panels will only allow me to save somewhere around $1800/year. The folks at Current Energy were extremely helpful.
Unfortunately Dallas has no incentives for solar panels and the federal incentives are minimal. If we lived in Austin my solar panel costs would be roughly 1/2 or 1/3 of what I would pay in Dallas - Austin heavily subsidizes alternative energies.
The cost of solar panels will drop dramatically in the next 5-10 years because the primary cost-driver (the silicon) is in relatively short supply. There are at least three new plants being opened (England, US and China) to manufacture the silicon for the panels. So I’m laying the electrical lines in my roof to be ready for when the panels become cost effective.
Until then, I’m installing double and triple paned windows and doors, using full-house encapsulation insulation, a 21 SEER A/C unit, and other energy-savings methods.
Gadfly@ August 2nd, 2008 at 3:28 pm
The stinker in me wants to say “nana nana naner, told you so!” I have an old leaky 2000 sq. ft. bungalo AND a green house cooled with a swamp cooler and my recent electrical bill was close to $300. It helps having complete tree coverage over the entire house—something that most McMansions can only dream of.
But what I have trouble with is the fact that our new large homes are designed and built without any “commonsense” architecture. Our own traditional Texas vernacular (the regional version of “commonsense” architecture”) has been replaced by dubious hybrid European nonsense that doesn’t work in our local environment without relying heavily on “techno-green” solutions. Instead of relying on technology to solve our problems, we should be returning to what worked well for us in the first place—our own traditional vernacular—wide overhanging eaves, shade, thick walls, and screen porches.
C.R.@ August 2nd, 2008 at 9:38 pm
You can get solar panels that aren’t $30,000 a pop. You can use them to generate enough power to totally power certain systems in your house, and you can sell back excess juice to the electric company. As far as I knew, there were subsidies for solar panels–federal subsidies are not “minimal” but they don’t totally cover it either. I could have sworn that there were local subsidies. Point is, the cost is coming down, and predicted to drop even more in 2009. The key to making these things work is to generate and store enough power that you can sell it back to energy companies: the same goes for wind power, if you want to erect windmills on your property (if you legally can).
Dooner@ August 3rd, 2008 at 1:45 pm
Thought I read that the city of Dallas makes it very difficult to install solar panels. Is that true?
Auntie Psychotic@ August 4th, 2008 at 8:24 am
Wow, that is SO impressive. We must all bow to the glorious wealth and power it must require to have a monument to one’s ego that requires $1400 a month to cool. How proud your parents must be.
Nate@ August 4th, 2008 at 9:41 am
How many solar powered calculators would you have to buy so you can create enough solar energy to power your house? I have a few TIs I can donate.
Yep…I understand completely. I just got my bill and it is right at $500 even though we took extreme measures to try and save after last months bill. Turning everything up to 85 degrees when we aren’t home and leaving the house practically dark at night resulted in a bill that was $30 more than last months. Geeeezzzz.
Andrea@ August 12th, 2008 at 2:33 pm
I just moved from Arizona and previously lived in the Fort Worth area, so had a similar heart attack when I opened a July 3-Aug. 4 bill from Reliant for $941! I’m renting a 2,200 sq ft house and keep the thermostat at about 75 degrees — my WORST bill in Arizona (for a 3,100 square foot house and 115-degree average temp in July) was $600. The owner has everything upgraded — radiant barrier, etc. — and I’m trying to work with Reliant to see if the meter’s askew, but I’ve never, in 30 years of paying electric bills, ever had an bill this high. Any ideas?
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What’s your square footage and if it’s down from last month, what was last month’s? A heart attack in a small white envelope?
Just wait until next month’s arrives with this string of 100+ days on it.
What kind of windows do you have in the house? I’ve replaced all of my windows with Simontons and have already seen my electricity bills drop by 10-15% compared to the same months last year…and it has been hotter this summer already. I’d say it was money well-spent.
Anyone looking for a good and very trustworthy window guy, have Candy send me your email address.
That’s an extraordinary high amount! Do you live in a freezer?
Our bill was about $400, and we have an old (1930)leaky 3200 sq foot two-story house. Since it would probably cost us about $20,000 to put in new windows, I’ll take a few hundred extra each month on the bill. We keep the downstairs at 75-76, but sleep upstairs at 72-73 degrees.
One way that we cut down on costs, is that I unplug or turn off everything I can when not in use like chargers, printers, lights, TV–if the sun’s up, the lights are off. I’ve also replaced some lightbulbs with the flourescent ones.
have you considered the average billing plan. helps spread it out over the year. consider closing the door to rooms you don’t use during the day this keeps the cool air in those rooms
have your thermostat checked and remember no home cooling system is designed to lower the temperature more than 20 degrees. So if is it 105 outside the best inside you can do is 85
use ceiling fans
Well,
I’ve talked to a lot of people ’round here — and Candy’s experience seems to be fairly typical. The reason this sort of thing happens, is that the building codes around here and the construction techniques everyone use have no regard to thermal/energy efficiency. Home wrap has been standard issue in homes elsewhere for years — here, its not even typical on luxury homes. Checked the SEER rating on your HVAC unit lately? What about radiant barriers in the roof? Plenty of things can be done at construction that make would ensure energy bills closer to $100 / month in August for about 3k sf — but all anyone ’round here seems to care about is the extremely low price they paid in the first place. Y’all get what you pay for…
Texans pay an average of 12.9 cents per kilowatt hour…one of the higher “average energy costs” in the nation (behind Hawaii, Alaska, and California). TXU sucks as a provider, and they make mistakes such as labeling “residential” properties as “commercial;” low and behold, commercial rates are higher than residential rates…It happened to a friend of mine who is renting a townhouse, and TXU has yet to re-classify the property (the only time a “townhouse” is a “commercial property” is when someone like Heidi Fleiss is your tenant…).
Newsweek just had an article about the cost of energy in all 50 states. We’re on the higher end of the energy cost continuum. So, de-regulation worked well…for companies like TXU. Oh, and if you have a smaller provider, there is a chance that if they go out of business / are bought out by a bigger company, that your rates will jump up too (that’s happening in the suburbs near Houston).
I’d suggest looking into solar panels–they’re actually becoming cost-effective (see the article in newsweek). My electrician was encouraging me to look into them (he hates TXU too, and is a big advocate of generating your own power).
Other energy savers: switch out regular incandescent lights for LED’s (which are $60-80 a pop…so enjoy the sticker shock on that), or Compact Florescents (they make dimable ones now, but they’re still kind of primitive).
Pretty much anything you have that has a clock, or little red light on it is sucking up energy even when it’s turned “off.” If you leave chargers in sockets when you aren’t charging anything, that’s also sucking on some energy.
Big(er) houses do come with big(er) bills…they’re a whipping, pretty much all the way around: taxes, insurance, utilities, maintenance.
I’ve heard of energy bills running $1900-$2,000 + in the summer months for say between a 7,000 and 7,500 square foot house.
That bit about the AC lowering temps only 20 degrees is an old wives’ tale. It can be 110 outside, but any decent central AC can keep it at 68 with no problems except for the bill. Heck, it’s FREEZING in the grocery stores. Whole Foods said that they keep it really cold because of the lack of preservatives in their food. (This was posted on the Preston/Forest bulletin board in their questions/comments section some months back.)
The major culprit of high utility costs in newer homes is the ceiling height. Ten-foot ceilings (and higher) will cost you serious dollars to heat and cool. Add some sunlights, floor to ceiling windows, and a third AC unit, and you’ve got a $1,000 electric bill.
I would love to have a solar panel. Any resources to point us to?
TO C.R.:
I looked at solar panels to put on my new hope-to-be 3500 sq ft LEED home and found that it would take roughly 40 years to pay back the minimum of $30K cost. Because my house will be super energy efficient anyway, I think the solar panels will only allow me to save somewhere around $1800/year. The folks at Current Energy were extremely helpful.
Unfortunately Dallas has no incentives for solar panels and the federal incentives are minimal. If we lived in Austin my solar panel costs would be roughly 1/2 or 1/3 of what I would pay in Dallas - Austin heavily subsidizes alternative energies.
The cost of solar panels will drop dramatically in the next 5-10 years because the primary cost-driver (the silicon) is in relatively short supply. There are at least three new plants being opened (England, US and China) to manufacture the silicon for the panels. So I’m laying the electrical lines in my roof to be ready for when the panels become cost effective.
Until then, I’m installing double and triple paned windows and doors, using full-house encapsulation insulation, a 21 SEER A/C unit, and other energy-savings methods.
The stinker in me wants to say “nana nana naner, told you so!” I have an old leaky 2000 sq. ft. bungalo AND a green house cooled with a swamp cooler and my recent electrical bill was close to $300. It helps having complete tree coverage over the entire house—something that most McMansions can only dream of.
But what I have trouble with is the fact that our new large homes are designed and built without any “commonsense” architecture. Our own traditional Texas vernacular (the regional version of “commonsense” architecture”) has been replaced by dubious hybrid European nonsense that doesn’t work in our local environment without relying heavily on “techno-green” solutions. Instead of relying on technology to solve our problems, we should be returning to what worked well for us in the first place—our own traditional vernacular—wide overhanging eaves, shade, thick walls, and screen porches.
You can get solar panels that aren’t $30,000 a pop. You can use them to generate enough power to totally power certain systems in your house, and you can sell back excess juice to the electric company. As far as I knew, there were subsidies for solar panels–federal subsidies are not “minimal” but they don’t totally cover it either. I could have sworn that there were local subsidies. Point is, the cost is coming down, and predicted to drop even more in 2009. The key to making these things work is to generate and store enough power that you can sell it back to energy companies: the same goes for wind power, if you want to erect windmills on your property (if you legally can).
Thought I read that the city of Dallas makes it very difficult to install solar panels. Is that true?
Wow, that is SO impressive. We must all bow to the glorious wealth and power it must require to have a monument to one’s ego that requires $1400 a month to cool. How proud your parents must be.
How many solar powered calculators would you have to buy so you can create enough solar energy to power your house? I have a few TIs I can donate.
Hey Candy…
Yep…I understand completely. I just got my bill and it is right at $500 even though we took extreme measures to try and save after last months bill. Turning everything up to 85 degrees when we aren’t home and leaving the house practically dark at night resulted in a bill that was $30 more than last months. Geeeezzzz.
I just moved from Arizona and previously lived in the Fort Worth area, so had a similar heart attack when I opened a July 3-Aug. 4 bill from Reliant for $941! I’m renting a 2,200 sq ft house and keep the thermostat at about 75 degrees — my WORST bill in Arizona (for a 3,100 square foot house and 115-degree average temp in July) was $600. The owner has everything upgraded — radiant barrier, etc. — and I’m trying to work with Reliant to see if the meter’s askew, but I’ve never, in 30 years of paying electric bills, ever had an bill this high. Any ideas?